Honda
05-04 10:26 PM
mine belongs to NSC..I read in another thread that the FP will expire every 15 months and that may be the reason why most of the July filers are getting FP notice again...
That is not reason.
Here is my situation.
In 2007 august i gave first time fingerprints.
In 2008 august i gave second time fingerprints.
Now i got another fingerprint. My service center is also NSC. There is some thing going on, i dont know why they are sending multiple fingerprints.
That is not reason.
Here is my situation.
In 2007 august i gave first time fingerprints.
In 2008 august i gave second time fingerprints.
Now i got another fingerprint. My service center is also NSC. There is some thing going on, i dont know why they are sending multiple fingerprints.
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gc28262
11-03 09:21 AM
That is so TRUE! Ask me I finished my undergraduate from US, and I didn't get selected in the H1 lottery system 3 times, yes 3 times. Neither my wife's labor was cleared in July fiasco. So imagine my situation.
So,
who do I blame? US govt? Or these Desi companies who have exploited H1B system to the core, abusing the system and making our lives miserable each day. Well I am about to join an organization, which will report these Desi companies straight to Department of Commerce, there are a group of students from other Universities who are planning to be a part of the organization.
Your question is genuine. Whom to blame ? definitely US gov for not providing enough H1B numbers.
What makes you think the permanent employees are better qualified to get an H1 than the ones from consulting companies ?
Generally consultants are highly competitive than the so called "permanent" employees. Many US graduates are employed due to some agreement between the universities and companies. During my consulting career, I have seen so many mediocre permanent employees who were hired just because they graduated from some XYZ US university.
I had a colleague who was PHD in computer science from some US university. His main topic of PHD, "parrallel processing". He didn't even have a proper understanding of different POSIX thread calls which he used for his PHD. That is the value of a US degree or PHD. Your degree is only as good as you !
I have been seeing many members talking about taking on consulting companies so that they can get better chunk of H1B visas. If you are that smart, go ahead and lobby for GC exemption for US graduates.
I know how labors are certified for the "permanent" employees. I was called as a candidate for one of those interviews.
Remember, if I ( the consultant) am coming down I am bringing down you ( permanent employee) with me.
Think before you leap !
So,
who do I blame? US govt? Or these Desi companies who have exploited H1B system to the core, abusing the system and making our lives miserable each day. Well I am about to join an organization, which will report these Desi companies straight to Department of Commerce, there are a group of students from other Universities who are planning to be a part of the organization.
Your question is genuine. Whom to blame ? definitely US gov for not providing enough H1B numbers.
What makes you think the permanent employees are better qualified to get an H1 than the ones from consulting companies ?
Generally consultants are highly competitive than the so called "permanent" employees. Many US graduates are employed due to some agreement between the universities and companies. During my consulting career, I have seen so many mediocre permanent employees who were hired just because they graduated from some XYZ US university.
I had a colleague who was PHD in computer science from some US university. His main topic of PHD, "parrallel processing". He didn't even have a proper understanding of different POSIX thread calls which he used for his PHD. That is the value of a US degree or PHD. Your degree is only as good as you !
I have been seeing many members talking about taking on consulting companies so that they can get better chunk of H1B visas. If you are that smart, go ahead and lobby for GC exemption for US graduates.
I know how labors are certified for the "permanent" employees. I was called as a candidate for one of those interviews.
Remember, if I ( the consultant) am coming down I am bringing down you ( permanent employee) with me.
Think before you leap !
Nagireddi
04-20 01:46 PM
$100 sent just now.I wish I can contribute more. I am sure I will do soon. Please send your contributions to our immigrationvoice.
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pkd666
09-17 01:46 PM
Is 25 mins not up yet.... this is worse than the so called Indian Standard Time.
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sparky_jones
04-18 03:40 PM
Dear Friends,
Got Green cards and Welcome notices for me and my wife .
Surprisingly no uscis e-mail and online status is still "initial review"
Our journey in short :
How long in US : 10+ years
First Labor in 2002 . Changed job in three years before approval of labor
Second Labor in 2004 . Approved in 2007
Filed I140 and 485 - in July 2007
Since then I was enjoying EAD / AP with no complain .
I donate to IV now and then , but for some reason only once (for few days) got access to IV-Donor Forum . But always had a faith that IV is doing good work .
From non-donor IV forums and other forums I noticed that USCIS are transferring leftover Visas to other EB categories . I waited to see some thing coming to EB3 but ......nothing came .
My Lawyer told me that I can port to EB2 and it is a normal a process.
1. New Perm
Filed in Feb and approved in 10 days ( Prep work takes 3 to 4 months before filing )
2. EB2 I140 (TSC)
a. Filed in March - Premium Processing
b. My Lawyer sent interfiling letter along with I140 filing
c. Approved in 7 days (A# and Priority Date retained)
d. Same week got Green Cards and Welcome Notices:) - Super-fast Approval
e. No email and no updates on USCIS website
Not sure about the USCIS and Lawyer fees . My company paid for every thing.
Hope every one get the desired freedom asap and don't have to wait like me for 10+ years
Wish you all the best ......to everyone who is waiting for GC.
Thanks,
Jimytomy
Awesome...congrats!
Got Green cards and Welcome notices for me and my wife .
Surprisingly no uscis e-mail and online status is still "initial review"
Our journey in short :
How long in US : 10+ years
First Labor in 2002 . Changed job in three years before approval of labor
Second Labor in 2004 . Approved in 2007
Filed I140 and 485 - in July 2007
Since then I was enjoying EAD / AP with no complain .
I donate to IV now and then , but for some reason only once (for few days) got access to IV-Donor Forum . But always had a faith that IV is doing good work .
From non-donor IV forums and other forums I noticed that USCIS are transferring leftover Visas to other EB categories . I waited to see some thing coming to EB3 but ......nothing came .
My Lawyer told me that I can port to EB2 and it is a normal a process.
1. New Perm
Filed in Feb and approved in 10 days ( Prep work takes 3 to 4 months before filing )
2. EB2 I140 (TSC)
a. Filed in March - Premium Processing
b. My Lawyer sent interfiling letter along with I140 filing
c. Approved in 7 days (A# and Priority Date retained)
d. Same week got Green Cards and Welcome Notices:) - Super-fast Approval
e. No email and no updates on USCIS website
Not sure about the USCIS and Lawyer fees . My company paid for every thing.
Hope every one get the desired freedom asap and don't have to wait like me for 10+ years
Wish you all the best ......to everyone who is waiting for GC.
Thanks,
Jimytomy
Awesome...congrats!
kumarc123
01-09 03:21 PM
The reason why change is not happening as much as we want is because we face tough opposition. The only way we can overcome this is by being stronger. We can definitely become stronger if all H1Bs, L1s, EADs etc come together on this platform. If each simply come, read posts, post comments and go away... it is tough to get anything done. Holding a rally is a good idea but we have seen how much work and resources are needed in planning and executing it. It can only be successful if several thousands turn up. Advocacy is a slow, long and painful process and requires lot of patience. Each member must take part in the advocacy effort and support ImmigrationVoice. The first step is to believe in IV. Believing in IV means believing in your abilities and the collective power of this community. There are many sharks out there with selfish interests who try to pull you down so that their own interests are served. Be a part of Immigration voice by supporting its monthly subscription if you cannot give your time to IV on daily basis. Join your state chapters and play a leadership role in organizing events to mobilize and increase membership in your states. IV will provide all the support and guidance you would need for lawmaker meetings. . IV is all of us. We all need to work together and make things happen.
Visa bulletins come and go and if we only keep watching and expecting miracles in bulletins, then we would be wasting our time. writing posts, tracking and blaming others will not solve anything. Each reader of this post should join this movement actively if they desire a change.
Papu,
I respect your involvement in IV and your diligence in promoting the community. However, I have been listening to your message over a long period of time.
1. Your suggestions of sending letter to white house---- DONE that
2. Your suggestion of calling different Senators---- Done that
3. Sending media your stories--- Letter sent no result.
The definition of failure is repeated measures over a certain period of time. The only way you can galvanize the Indian community towards IV is by, hosting something big. Otherwise people don't like to get involved in to something which is old news.
IV has become old news now, I and some other members, I am sure feel, something big needs to be done. The problem is IV is lacking a good leadership--- please don't take me wrong, you have been a great help, but moreover in the past. What I am proposing is, a big rally in DC.
I know it is hard to deal with Desi's in general, OUR MENTALITY IS OF A FREE RIDE, but this free ride is heading towards a deep pitch.
And moreover, people just come and offer their view points, I believe this organization should be more than that, involvement in STATE Chapters, and meeting with other state regulators, will not create a loud voice.
I totally disagree with you on that,
if illegals can create a loud voice even after being illegal, then what is stopping us? Organize something, but don't ask to be involved in state chapters, I will not waste my time, running and begging authorities to consider legals, when others are creating a loud vigilance.
Thank you.
Visa bulletins come and go and if we only keep watching and expecting miracles in bulletins, then we would be wasting our time. writing posts, tracking and blaming others will not solve anything. Each reader of this post should join this movement actively if they desire a change.
Papu,
I respect your involvement in IV and your diligence in promoting the community. However, I have been listening to your message over a long period of time.
1. Your suggestions of sending letter to white house---- DONE that
2. Your suggestion of calling different Senators---- Done that
3. Sending media your stories--- Letter sent no result.
The definition of failure is repeated measures over a certain period of time. The only way you can galvanize the Indian community towards IV is by, hosting something big. Otherwise people don't like to get involved in to something which is old news.
IV has become old news now, I and some other members, I am sure feel, something big needs to be done. The problem is IV is lacking a good leadership--- please don't take me wrong, you have been a great help, but moreover in the past. What I am proposing is, a big rally in DC.
I know it is hard to deal with Desi's in general, OUR MENTALITY IS OF A FREE RIDE, but this free ride is heading towards a deep pitch.
And moreover, people just come and offer their view points, I believe this organization should be more than that, involvement in STATE Chapters, and meeting with other state regulators, will not create a loud voice.
I totally disagree with you on that,
if illegals can create a loud voice even after being illegal, then what is stopping us? Organize something, but don't ask to be involved in state chapters, I will not waste my time, running and begging authorities to consider legals, when others are creating a loud vigilance.
Thank you.
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desi3933
01-22 10:22 AM
......
The question is who will fight it. Lawyer website are posting information. But none of them have filed a lawsuit if they really cared about this issue.
.....
You need to understand how legal system works. Lawyer can not file lawsuite by himself/herself. It has to come from Employer, that too, when employer's H1-B petition is denied based on memo info or H1-B worker is denied entry. Damages (or Loss) must be shown before a civil suit can be filed.
Have a good day!
_________________
Not a legal advice.
The question is who will fight it. Lawyer website are posting information. But none of them have filed a lawsuit if they really cared about this issue.
.....
You need to understand how legal system works. Lawyer can not file lawsuite by himself/herself. It has to come from Employer, that too, when employer's H1-B petition is denied based on memo info or H1-B worker is denied entry. Damages (or Loss) must be shown before a civil suit can be filed.
Have a good day!
_________________
Not a legal advice.
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03-03 02:32 PM
Thanks ilikekilo, I'll check out IMG. Even with the rider for pre-existing condition, the coverage is limited to $15000 max, so I decided it isn't worth paying the extra premium for such little coverage.
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rajuram
07-01 12:43 AM
All that appears on this website is discussions about EAD, AP, buying a house etc. etc...These are very informative and useful.
But, what about our larger goals? Will we ever get out of this rut? When will the retrogression end?
But, what about our larger goals? Will we ever get out of this rut? When will the retrogression end?
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easygoer
05-26 06:17 PM
Salient features of Bill: S.1085
After analyzing this bill, I found the following:
1. This bill will recapture all those unused employment based visas (gcs) from 1997 till 2008 and it will add those recaptured visas to this year's employment based quota.
2. After the passage of this bill, any unused visas will rollover to the next year. So, no more wastage of visas as we go forward.
3. Per country limit will be increased from 7% to 10%, so more folks from over subscribed countries would be able to come under the normal yearly quota.
4. We will be able to avail the benefits of the recapture after 60 days of the passage of the bill. That means, if they are able to recapture 220,000 (approx) employment based visas, the employment based category will be able to use all those after 60 days of the passage of this bill. USCIS is pre-adjudicating all I485s pending and if this bill gets passed in say for eg by October 30, almost all (80%) in this community (who filed 485) would be able get their GCs in Jan and Feb of 2010.
What makes this bill much more interesting is:
1. This is not a bill targetting the issues of Employment based category - So there won't be a huge backlash against this in the name of the economy and recession. The provisions for the employment category are just one item in this bill.
2. Family based immigration reform has a wider range of support from all kinds of groups unlike Employment based immigration reform. Just search for this bill "Reuniting Families Act" in google news and you can identify all those organizations supporting this bill (they all have a news release).
Complete Text of this Bill:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.1085:
Thanks realizeit to present simple format.
After analyzing this bill, I found the following:
1. This bill will recapture all those unused employment based visas (gcs) from 1997 till 2008 and it will add those recaptured visas to this year's employment based quota.
2. After the passage of this bill, any unused visas will rollover to the next year. So, no more wastage of visas as we go forward.
3. Per country limit will be increased from 7% to 10%, so more folks from over subscribed countries would be able to come under the normal yearly quota.
4. We will be able to avail the benefits of the recapture after 60 days of the passage of the bill. That means, if they are able to recapture 220,000 (approx) employment based visas, the employment based category will be able to use all those after 60 days of the passage of this bill. USCIS is pre-adjudicating all I485s pending and if this bill gets passed in say for eg by October 30, almost all (80%) in this community (who filed 485) would be able get their GCs in Jan and Feb of 2010.
What makes this bill much more interesting is:
1. This is not a bill targetting the issues of Employment based category - So there won't be a huge backlash against this in the name of the economy and recession. The provisions for the employment category are just one item in this bill.
2. Family based immigration reform has a wider range of support from all kinds of groups unlike Employment based immigration reform. Just search for this bill "Reuniting Families Act" in google news and you can identify all those organizations supporting this bill (they all have a news release).
Complete Text of this Bill:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.1085:
Thanks realizeit to present simple format.
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gc28262
03-11 01:01 PM
No offense to the OP and Thanks for posting this, but this thread is kind of diverting us from some of the efforts currently in progress, we are again playing the prediction game.
Lets contribute to the FOIA funding drive and get the right information.
thanks,
7zen
This thread should not divert our attention from FOIA action item. We just got some information through senator. It does not have enough details to conclude anything.
This response should help us to focus on what to ask for in FOIA/efforts through senators. It is a pointer that we won't get the required info unless we clearly specify what we want.
Lets contribute to the FOIA funding drive and get the right information.
thanks,
7zen
This thread should not divert our attention from FOIA action item. We just got some information through senator. It does not have enough details to conclude anything.
This response should help us to focus on what to ask for in FOIA/efforts through senators. It is a pointer that we won't get the required info unless we clearly specify what we want.
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WaldenPond
03-13 12:12 PM
I completely disagree with your message here. You dont even know what the personal reason for not participating in a state chapter is. I, for one, am unable to join a state chapter, because , the nearest chapter is 400 miles and 2 states away. What good would it do to me to join something that I can never be part of. I wanted to start a state chapter here in my place, but I couldnt find any useful resources on how to do it. May be eb3_nepa has some reasons like it.
Like you said, IV is not a top-down organization, which means everyone is responsible for everyone. I dont see anything wrong with eb3_nepa's questions. He wanted to know what is going on. I am sure there are lots of people around here who has the same questions.
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Thank you
When you join a state chapter or a group in your area, it is not necessary to conduct face-to-face meetings everyday/every week, although in person meetings wouldn't hurt. The idea is to create a channel to dissipate information through channels other than WWW. Believe it or not, there are lot many folks from anti-groups who lurk around just to keep an eye on us. Participating or becoming part of the group near to you and encourage others to do the same will also help to build/strength a group of like minded folks in the area who could then team-up to meet with local lawmakers from your area/state. We are a grass roots organization and we need to have a stronger grassroots in order to continue to be more effective. As I said earlier, this channel also is very useful to dissipate information which cannot be shared on world wide web.
Now a days when everybody has presidential election on their mind, immigration issue is not on the list of things to do for most lawmakers. As such, it takes time for the updates and the there are updates that cannot be disclosed on www. We continue to work on our issues in manner we have always worked in the past. And in the absence of Congress not taking up our immigration issues, it some how becomes our fault even though it is ok if some folks would show up from time to time and suggest that they have reasons not to join a google or a yahoo group. And all of a sudden the problem is with organization and the manner in which we work and then there is an urgent to create a “process”. Although you seem to be suggesting that you want all the ducks in the row and world peace issues sorted out before you will start accepting updates in exactly the manner in which you like to receive them. Is that correct? How about the idea of getting actively involved in your area and create an active chapter, which was your idea to begin with, and one I would agree is an excellent idea.
It is of'course a valid question - “what is going on”. Also it is a very general statement and one which can have a very long answer and one which can be answered in few words. If you become part of a group in your area, you will know what is going on. Please understand that a significant number of members are putting lot of effort, if others are not able to participate actively, is it not fair to ask others to help in organizing in groups in the local area and be regular communication so that action items could be handled effectively?
Like you said, IV is not a top-down organization, which means everyone is responsible for everyone. I dont see anything wrong with eb3_nepa's questions. He wanted to know what is going on. I am sure there are lots of people around here who has the same questions.
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Thank you
When you join a state chapter or a group in your area, it is not necessary to conduct face-to-face meetings everyday/every week, although in person meetings wouldn't hurt. The idea is to create a channel to dissipate information through channels other than WWW. Believe it or not, there are lot many folks from anti-groups who lurk around just to keep an eye on us. Participating or becoming part of the group near to you and encourage others to do the same will also help to build/strength a group of like minded folks in the area who could then team-up to meet with local lawmakers from your area/state. We are a grass roots organization and we need to have a stronger grassroots in order to continue to be more effective. As I said earlier, this channel also is very useful to dissipate information which cannot be shared on world wide web.
Now a days when everybody has presidential election on their mind, immigration issue is not on the list of things to do for most lawmakers. As such, it takes time for the updates and the there are updates that cannot be disclosed on www. We continue to work on our issues in manner we have always worked in the past. And in the absence of Congress not taking up our immigration issues, it some how becomes our fault even though it is ok if some folks would show up from time to time and suggest that they have reasons not to join a google or a yahoo group. And all of a sudden the problem is with organization and the manner in which we work and then there is an urgent to create a “process”. Although you seem to be suggesting that you want all the ducks in the row and world peace issues sorted out before you will start accepting updates in exactly the manner in which you like to receive them. Is that correct? How about the idea of getting actively involved in your area and create an active chapter, which was your idea to begin with, and one I would agree is an excellent idea.
It is of'course a valid question - “what is going on”. Also it is a very general statement and one which can have a very long answer and one which can be answered in few words. If you become part of a group in your area, you will know what is going on. Please understand that a significant number of members are putting lot of effort, if others are not able to participate actively, is it not fair to ask others to help in organizing in groups in the local area and be regular communication so that action items could be handled effectively?
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06-11 11:46 AM
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BharatPremi
12-13 10:06 PM
Information we want to publicize, and information that we should keep restricted to members.
jazz
That is already happening in state chapters. In my opinion IV still has a need to remain "grass root" organization. And as long as that is needed, "Recurring Contribution" would be more attractive tool. Once we set "Paid membership" concept it will instituionalize and in my opinion at this early stage it is not
advisable.
jazz
That is already happening in state chapters. In my opinion IV still has a need to remain "grass root" organization. And as long as that is needed, "Recurring Contribution" would be more attractive tool. Once we set "Paid membership" concept it will instituionalize and in my opinion at this early stage it is not
advisable.
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04-22 11:22 AM
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07-14 09:32 PM
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sanju
09-24 01:46 AM
Ok, I will give you a weak analogy. See how Indian IPOs distribute shares when it is oversubscribed. The same thing goes here. Replace money by applicants and replace investors by countries, and you will get a sense as to why per country quota is implemented. I agree it is hard to digest the per country quota, but it is what it is. It is affirmative action if you will. It requires equality, but gives some buffer to people not properly represented (or run the risk of being overwhelmed by any single country).
You are right, it is very hard to digest, even for you, who seems to support it. And, if I may add, your example it too "complicated" for me. Try giving easy example for me, I am kind a slow, maybe I should get some "preferential treatment". Yes, that's the word, "preferential".
Country quota is NOT affirmative action, nowhere even close. If you are socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese, yes, then it is affirmative action. But if you do not come from a place there Indian and Chinese imperial powers have taken over the country, then how are you socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese. And if you are not dominated by Indian or Chinese in the country where you came from, then how could it be "like" affarmative action.
Maybe you yet don't know, but Indian and Chinese EB applications cannot vote and they do not have any representation in the US government. So its not that you are "not properly represented" and Indian and Chinese have all the representation. WE ALL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. Just so that its clear.
Your next argument is that you are "overwhelmed" by Indian and Chinese so there should be country-limits. Well, I can understand that, we are very overwhelming people. You see 40% of the world population gets 14% green card, we tend to become "overwhelming" for other.
Observation: Each time, I reply to each and every part of your post. But you totally ignore what I write. You did not answer whether you think you are equal? inferior? or superior? That is the question. Hope you answer that.
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
You are right, it is very hard to digest, even for you, who seems to support it. And, if I may add, your example it too "complicated" for me. Try giving easy example for me, I am kind a slow, maybe I should get some "preferential treatment". Yes, that's the word, "preferential".
Country quota is NOT affirmative action, nowhere even close. If you are socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese, yes, then it is affirmative action. But if you do not come from a place there Indian and Chinese imperial powers have taken over the country, then how are you socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese. And if you are not dominated by Indian or Chinese in the country where you came from, then how could it be "like" affarmative action.
Maybe you yet don't know, but Indian and Chinese EB applications cannot vote and they do not have any representation in the US government. So its not that you are "not properly represented" and Indian and Chinese have all the representation. WE ALL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. Just so that its clear.
Your next argument is that you are "overwhelmed" by Indian and Chinese so there should be country-limits. Well, I can understand that, we are very overwhelming people. You see 40% of the world population gets 14% green card, we tend to become "overwhelming" for other.
Observation: Each time, I reply to each and every part of your post. But you totally ignore what I write. You did not answer whether you think you are equal? inferior? or superior? That is the question. Hope you answer that.
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
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rheoretro
11-12 02:11 PM
Was just watching Late Edition on CNN..with Arlen Specter and Chuck Schumer.. Specter did mention that he expects the CIR to be passed in the next few weeks in the lame duck session by the house.. infact he mentioned that the conservative outgoing speaker Hastert in favour of this at this time..so house might pass this now..with the senate already passed this..
Lets see who this goes ..
Rule #1 in politics: don't believe a word of what a politician says until you see those words translated into concrete actions.
As for Dennis Hastert, who cares what he has to say now. Sayonara.:D
Lets see who this goes ..
Rule #1 in politics: don't believe a word of what a politician says until you see those words translated into concrete actions.
As for Dennis Hastert, who cares what he has to say now. Sayonara.:D
venkat_gc
02-15 03:57 PM
Logiclife. I know why you are responding to these comments you all are frustrated with such comments. I know it is hard to not respond but please ignore these asinine comments. Please have some of these comments linked to the main page. But believe me "barking dogs seldom bite." Such people will ultimately sap your energy. But, just like how IV is asking people to contribute please also ask them to use their own judgment, they do this at their own risk. There are many people like us who have faith in your group although we know you cannot do miracles. Please have faith and I sincerely request to all members & moderator that once we see these comments let us move this to the some thread called �IV bashing thread� and let the rest of us completely ignore them.
Well Said
Well Said
vsrinir
09-17 01:00 PM
I Think They Have Gone For Lunch
STAY TUNED
STAY TUNED
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